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Seva Cafe running on Gift Economics

Thursday, August 7th, 2008

http://www.sevacafe.org/

Mutually Empowering Rhizome

Saturday, July 19th, 2008

I realize it is much easier for me to meaningfully empower others.

For example , I do not have health insurance anymore , but I am not worried about it.

I do not have money income , but I am not worried about it.

I am not worried about other people either ,

but it feels meaningful to be cocreative and share with the other ,

it feels easier and more meaningful to empower others , and with others ,
as somehow I feel “trust” that by doing what I can best do , others will do what they can.

So I guess that the easiest for me , is to continue networking people sharing common intentions ,

facilitating the visualization and understanding of intentions and ways of manifesting ,

and let each other realize what is needed to empower others ,
feeling empathy for each others learning experience while making choices that empower intention and the consciousness at all levels of abstraction ,
doing what can , being a mirror , without the need for it , without need to please ,

empowering ourselves by empowering others , or rather , empowering ” can “.

Others can empower me in surviving and continue the flow of can ,
so that I can empower others in maintaining the flow of can ,
and then we end up with a rhizome that is mutually empowering.

I also like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_(philosophy)

Nelson Mandela explained Ubuntu as follows;

A traveller through a country would stop at a village and he didn’t have to ask for food or for water. Once he stops, the people give him food, entertain him. That is one aspect of Ubuntu but it will have various aspects. Ubuntu does not mean that people should not address themselves. The question therefore is: Are you going to do so in order to enable the community around you be able to improve?

meaning through shared realities

Thursday, July 17th, 2008

———- Forwarded message ———-
From: Dante-Gabryell Monson
Date: Thu, May 15, 2008 at 1:43 PM
Subject: meaning through shared realities

I have grown up in a individualist society , and I feel that my heart and mind is not satisfied with competitive and consumerist individualism. In eastern europe I discovered a certain sensibility that resonated with my heart , yet at the same time I realize that I am part of a Paradigm that is not one of ( some mainstream socio culture in ) eastern europe , or not of western europe , but one that is in creation.

I realize that there are some precious people I meet on my road , and with whom I would like to build with.

I also realize that what has meaning is to share , and to co-create , yet that it is not easy in the current situation to find a way to share space in peoples realities , as often it is already packed with their obligations , or also because a lot of people are scared of the chaos of the unknown , which I might reflect to them through my attempts of creating new solutions , beyond the current structures ,

even when many of them do appreciate that I am trying to develop new solutions.

I meet a lot of people , but at the same time it feels isolated , as it is most of the time only for the time of a cup of tea , and not in a shared reality , towards a common intention.

Sometimes people are curious about my different approaches , but when i stay for longer then a cup of tea it seems to often make them feel threatened by my different approach , perhaps as it becomes a mirror to their reality , and to a potential of doing things differently , which re-questions their own structures , and re-questions the validity of what they considered being obligations.

Yet I am progressively developing the intentional networks with which I hope to co-create , and develop the bases that will facilitate alternative lifestyles , approaches , solutions - preserving and expanding our space to be different , while opening up the opportunities to empower each other through and with our differences - in a collaborative individualist approach :

Many people , including politicians and economics , are not satisfied with the current financial system , and the ways whereby we count economics and value creation , as we realize that it does not necessarily lead to ” development ” , but to destruction in the interest of a few.

To be able to cope with the complexity of the world of today , we need to empower each other while using the available tools , and learning and living approaches are very central.

Trust information systems and decision making are also very central ,

and today , compared with the past , we do not need to fight for control over land and people to have control on communication channels that enable such society building ,

we do not need to go through civil wars ( as the one that hapenned in Finland in the beginning of the 20th century ) ,

we can develop alternative systems that can provide solutions directly to the people , and , as more and more people see their interest in using it , it will grow by itself without having to take over control on any other system – in effect , ending up with multiple parallel societies and realities , and as individuals we could choose the multiple solutions and societies we are active in – complementing each other.

Anyway , hope this does not all sound too complicated. I hope soon we can develop some documentary that can illustrate and make such perspectives easily accessible.

Rhizomic Consciousness

Thursday, July 17th, 2008

What I tend to call ” rhizomic forms of consciousness ” ,
have , in the way I tend to define it ,
characteristics such as inclusiveness / unconditionality / openness to participation ,
transparency ( holopticism , as opposed to panopticism ) , non linearity ,
permanent creation and modularity of relations as opposed to reproduction of crystallized sets of relations ,

and because of this ,
other properties such as non-coerciveness ( passion / intrinsic motivation ) ,
emergence , natural non permanent / functional leadership based on initiative - participation - experience - reputation ( in social networks ) , collaborative creation , stigmergy , …

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a brainstorming in french , with my friend Florence …

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Shared intention : Meta-Rhizome
Synthese par intention et conscience partagee :
vivre en simplicite dans la complexite par authenticite

Il s’agit de faciliter une transition vers un paradigme de simplicité dans la complexité ,
au travers d un Rhizome de Rhizomes.

Le paradigme de simplicité se caractérise par :

- l’empowerment mutuel : la collaboration (synergie) au lieu de la compétition
- l’émergence : synergie entre synergies
- la motivation intrinsèque : la passion comme moteur d’activité, et pas la motivation extrinsèque
- le pouvoir d’inspiration plutôt que le pouvoir de coercition
- l’approche de création et pas seulement de reproduction
- la création de nouvelles solutions autour de la quelle se concentre la concentration de l’attention et des ressources
- la customization des solutions : toute solution peut être transformée et adaptée à son contexte
- l’intérêt de tous plutôt qu’autour de structures de pouvoir dans leurs intérêts propres
- la mise en commun de tout, sans nécessaire abandon de la propriété privée (ex : copyleft)
- une hiérarchie naturelle suivant la compétence dans une situation donnée et la participation
- une hiérarchie non coercitive : avec un pouvoir d’inspiration
le long terme plutôt que le court terme
stigmergie
un rhizome : une interconnexion entre tout élément avec l’ensemble des autres éléments
non lineaire

une forme d’organisation, de collaboration en réseau (rhizome)
- tout element est connecté avec toute autre element au travers du rhizome, tout projet est connecté avec un autre projet, tout devient transdisciplinaire.
- il n’y a pas de dépendance à une structure en particulier : on n’est pas limité à la reproduction de structure, il y a une redisposition continuelle des non-structures
- conscience plus large que le soi, une conscience de notre capacité mutuelle dans l’intérêt global
- potentiel du nombre de voies de communication illimité (pour avoir une société, il faut une voie de communication pour qu elle s organise)
- ubiquité et convergence entre la réalité physique et réalité digitale
- conscience de dépendance mutuelle permanente sans dépendance spécifique a une entite
- la synthèse : convergence des différents éléments

Des systèmes inconditionnels, non hiérarchisés, autogérés, rhizomiques, transparents, décentralisés, connectés, autonomes, par émergence, non linéaire, non conflictuel et ouverts a la collaboration…

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Description de la culture

Cela est plus facile à comprendre à travers un mode de vie : des styles de vie passionnés dirigés par un sentiment de sens partagé.

Il s’agit d’une nouvelle culture que vivent sous un aspect ou un autre des hackers open source, auto stoppeurs, réseaux d’hospitalité (couch-surfing), …

C’est une culture sans règle hiérarchique spécifique, mais avec une flexibilité sur le plan de l’influence des individus au sein de la communauté. Cette influence leur est attribuée de manière naturelle suivant leur compétence dans une situation donnée et leur participation.

La confiance et l attention devient un atout majeur et ouvre la voie à leur collaboration dans le réseau. Une ecoute et une confiance de base peut etre donnée d’emblée, mais selon ce que les gens font, ils gagnent ou perdent en réputation , et donc , en potentiel d attention et de confiance vis a vis d eux.

Chaque personne est valorisée et les individus se soutiennent mutuellement dans le réseau pour apprendre ensemble et opèrent un nivellement par le haut. Les individus s’empowerent (s’émancipent) mutuellement : ils mettent à disposition leurs ressources et potentiels respectifs.

La transparence est très importante car elle offre l’inclusion en permettant une compréhension de la situation et des différents éléments qui la composent. Cela permet à chacun d’apporter de nouvelle question, de nouvelles solution pouvant contribuer à l’émancipation et la création de valeur mutuelle. La rétention d’information

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Création de communautés de pratiques : on apprend ensemble en partageant nos références, suivant une motivation intrinsèque et une émulation mutuelle.
Des personnes qui partagent une intention et des intérêts communs.

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De plus en plus de personnes se trouvent confrontées à un changement continuel ; elles vivent dans une réalité de réalité multiple. Il devient de plus en plus difficile de se restreindre à une réalité spécifique, on peut vivre l experience d une réalité sans en être spécifiquement dépendant. On développe une capacité à constamment recréer sa réalité.

Cette adaptation rend possible la simplicité dans la complexité, parce qu’elle mène à vivre de plus en plus dans le moment présent, à se détacher de plus en plus de structures et de besoins spécifiques.

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Un méta projet avec différents modules transdisciplinaires, connectés entre eux.

Meta-Rhizome :

Rhizome : Finance

emergence de systeme financier alternatif sans interet ,
avec demurrage ,

a partir de reseaux de ( cooperatives de ? ) producteurs et de consommateurs.

Rhizome : Holoptisme

Pour faciliter une conscience et une vue d’ensemble pour tous : un système holoptique (/= panoptique)
L’intérêt est dans le processus plus que dans la structure.

Certains modules peuvent être développés avec les outils actuel et d’autres nécessitent un investissement dans la R&D.

OUTIL holoptique
Constituer une base de données des différents intérêts, les objectifs, les questions, les besoins.
Tous les segments sont reliés entre eux par des métatag. L’information est accessible à tous.
Chacun peut savoir ce qui intéresse chacun : on peut s’organiser autour de problématiques partagées (tout en ouvrant la possibilité d’une perspective plus globale).

DIFFUSER LES OUTILS DE LA CULTURE ALTERNATIVE

Ces systèmes existent déjà dans la culture alternative,il s’agit de les diffuser.

Rhizome : Energie

accès aux ressources (énergie, eau, nourriture, services) et aux outils (logistique).

Rhizome : Logistique Marchande

Rhizome : Stigmergie – Logistique des activites et processus

definition en francais

http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stigmergie ( voir aussi : Intelligence distribuée )
quoi que la definition anglophone correspond peut etre d avantage a l idee que j en fais :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stigmergy

Mon idee est celle d outils qui facilitent
la synchronisation et la coordination non centralisee au travers de l espace entre differents individus suivant des intentions et des objectifs communs

Rhizome : économie et devises (trust information system : IOU ; ripple)

emergence de systeme financier alternatif sans interet ,
avec demurrage ,

a partir de reseaux de ( cooperatives de ? ) producteurs et de consommateurs.

explicatif de demurrage :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demurrage_%28currency%29

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demurrage

Rhizome : communication (réseaux ad hoc, multihop)

Rhizome : protocoles de routage ( Freenet , BitTorrent , … )

Rhizome : apprentissage (pas d’éducation, au sens de reproduction des patterns)

Rhizome : Gouvernance

Rhizome : licence ( Copyleft , General Public licence )

Le plus que le nombre de personnes et entites participant au reseau augmente , le plus que la valeur du systeme , et son potentiel de calculation augmente.

CRÉER LES OUTILS POUR UN MÉTA-LANGAGE ,
- p ost symbolique émergent (outil holoptique en lui-même)
- avec la possibilité d’une navigation immersive, dynamique et relative
- on peut partager un concept directement en voyant les coordonnées dans la constellation sémantique
- plus il y a d’interrelation/vecteurs, plus la précision de la position de chaque objet dans le système augmente.

process dimension
- permet de naviguer les différents processus et la conscience dans laquelle ces processus sont vécus.
- processus positif : 1/ la confiance (ouverture d’un channel), 2/ l’action , 3/ la contemplation (forme de gratification), 0/ l’inspiration
- processus négatif : 1/ la confiance négative (augmentation de la peur), 2/ la réduction du potentiel d’action, 3/ une contemplation négative (sentiment de frustration), 0/ moins d’inspiration

alternative “marketing” platform

Thursday, July 17th, 2008

———- Forwarded message ———-
From: Dante-Gabryell Monson
Date: Fri, Nov 11, 2005 at 2:59 AM
Subject: alternative “marketing” platform

I was thinking about another idea:

developping a webplatform that catalogues “products” , and eventually “services” , according to certain ethical standards, values, and environmental and social points.

Many of these products would not necessarily have a high degree of marketing, or would rely on this platform to market their products.

Clients would use the platform as a reference to buy locally, and eventually also to re-establish a link with producers.

It might also be possible for the “consumer” to become part of the producing process, and cooperate with the producers, exchanging and building knowledge, and participating in the production process.

Such a platform could combine different concepts related to local exchange systems, local currencies, local production, opening up spaces for reflection and intiatives, develop a consumer-producer culture, encourage consumption and production of quality products while reducing environmental and social destructive impacts and maximising opportunities and the quality of products, reducing the amount of marketing costs in percentage of total costs, etc

it might seem to be related to some of the following :

http://www.rbjones.com/rbjpub/rbj008.htm

I wonder what would be a good test space for such a kind of approach, and realise that in Norway there is a strong conciousness of buying local products over imported products ( to encourage their own economy, even if its more expensive )

Although I imagine that all products would not necessarily need to be locally produced / or one could also imagine including into certain aspects of the platform a points system what related “fair trade” with developping countries, …

and the platform would also take into account products from all over the world, so that competition and comparisons can be maintained, and encourage local producers to improve their quality to competition.

Let me know what you think,

if you are interested, I’d like to see with whom and how to organize such development - eventually start small -

I also imagine such things already exist - but can only notice that if it does, its not widespread -

Dante

Build up of mutually empowered critical mass of prosumers ?

Thursday, July 17th, 2008

———- Forwarded message ———-
From: Dante-Gabryell Monson
Date: Sat, May 17, 2008 at 1:52 PM
Subject: Build up of mutually empowered critical mass of prosumers ?
To: hc_ecology - at - yahoogroups.com, sustainable_solidarity - at - yahoogroups.com

I felt like writing some additional ideas , in relation to potential developments and projects I see around me , and question myself as to where to converge ” physically ” while being able to live, and facilitate the … ” Build up of mutually empowered critical mass of prosumers ? ” - while not disconnecting ourselves from the city / not fully living in autharcy - but being open to a globalised world , with a capacity for higher levels of mutual empowerment and collaborative creativity.

and how to facilitate the networking and collaboration of organizations , cooperatives , academic institutions , students , … any individual towards such intentions ?

When the picture is so synthetic and complex , where to start ?

a follow up on a previous thread and response which you will find below

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I also notice another trend - the urban redevelopment trend around knowledge and creation centers.

this is my main reason for now visiting Helsinki , as there is a urban re-development plan , shifting a declined industrial neighborhood into a art/design/high tech - living , research and development , management , lifelong learning space.

see:

http://www.helsinkivirtualvillage.fi/Resource.phx/adc/inenglish/index.htx

also see another project in the united states :

if you have a good internet connection , you might want to view this very easy to read and informative 10 Mb pdf file :

www.arc.cmu.edu/cmu/rci/PDFs/RCI_Hazelwood2007.pdf

if not , some more google entries related to

Remaking Cities Institute - Carnegie Mellon University’s School of Architecture

One of the aims of mine and of many people I end up meeting , along these last years , is to connect further our intentional networks , with a variety of individuals from different backgrounds sharing it , activists , academic institutions, students , organizations , businesses , governmental organizations , representatives , etc

share practices , experiment , increase our credibility through joint projects , increase support and access to a variety of resources , …

There are a number of very interesting initiatives , in many OECD countries - for example here a japanese practice sharing platform :

http://www.japanfs.org/

Although sometimes it feels simple yet complex , and I doubt strongly that the verbal language tool , even when extended by information technologies , and emails like this one , can be effective enough - i feel more and more that what is needed is new forms of language , some kinds of dynamic mapping into which we can add , position , extract , compare , correct , …

beyond wiki s , yet including them , extracting available data from the internet , from our environments , and be able to visualize them through some post symbolic visual language.

I am also not surprised to see that many a case , as with the Arabiaranta Helsinki redevelopment project , the central synthetic and creative environment , the convergence space for trans-disciplinarity , are choses to be art universities , or more precisely , art and technology development oriented environments ,

dreaming and designing futures and the relations between all elements , including dreams about new esthetical forms of lifestyle …

Or am I wrong ? I am perhaps too young to have experienced it , but it seemed that in the end of the 60 ies , the social movements erupted from the humanistic faculties ?

Is this still te case ? I traveled all over europe in the last years , met a lot of students of politics and sociology , and often they would end up being the activist side of the movement , but often in an approach that is ” fighting ” and not necessarily with new visions.

It feels that Design and Technology Development / Research ” clusters ” are becoming ” fashion and being developed , not necessarily through grassroot movements , but because of the needs and evolution of businesses ( and consumerism ? ) into products that require such solutions.

Which perhaps sounds a bit contradictory to a prosumer spirit ?

Business seems to have been successfull in absorbing the individualist needs of the 68 generation into … consumerism ? ( I paste below some references to a BBC series of documentaries ” The century of the self ” ) ,

but will it take further control over current psychological , and potential structural developments ?

Or are we able to create the prototypes that can better deal with complexity and offer alternative modes of organization and lifestyle then the current dominant competitive , consumerist , scarcity creating , individualist models ?

A dilemna I feel is that the resources are still on the side of a capitalistic mode of production and managment.

Organizing ourselves , and connecting between each other , cooperatives , that can facilitate the mutual empowerment of individuals while creating some of the resources they need to live , eventually selling to a broader market , or even creating its own markets ( and own alternative - intentional ? - currencies ? more complex barter systems involving information technologies ? to trade between partners / cooperatives that share common intentions ? )

Can we inspire the creation of a critical mass ?

Where do we start to converge a critical mass ?

With food cooperatives ? With learning practices and school environments ?

I know that its in every different field that we can be active , and spread such socio-cultural memes ,

yet for some of us , it does not feed us yet -

The p2p foundation ( and other platforms and movements ), the convergence of various examples and ideas under the wiki , blog , ning , mailing lists

http://p2pfoundation.net

http://blog.p2pfoundation.net

is where we seem to be now.

But how to connect a critical mass ? … as to empower ourselves with the resources needed ,
without having to be dependent on a capitalistic mode of organization and production ?

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” The Century of the Self ”

part 1 )
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2637635365191428174

part 2 )
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-678466363224520614

part 3 )
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6111922724894802811

part 4 ) http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1122532358497501036

About ” The Century of the Self ” :

extract from http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcfour/documentaries/features/century_of_the_self.shtml

To many in both politics and business, the triumph of the self is the ultimate expression of democracy, where power has finally moved to the people. Certainly the people may feel they are in charge, but are they really? The Century of the Self tells the untold and sometimes controversial story of the growth of the mass-consumer society in Britain and the United States. How was the all-consuming self created, by whom, and in whose interests?

some more videos on my blog

http://dante.ecobytes.net/

On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 1:01 PM, Dante-Gabryell Monson wrote:

Hi Marco , Michel , Sam , ( cc : Alicia , Marilyn , Steve , Synnove , Andrius , Josef , Franz , Jeff )

yes , I guess that the people that are fully interested in investing themselves in a shift of lifestyle patterns in such kind of approach - pro-suming ( ? ) - form some kind of sub-culture -

The eco-village movement ( such as http://gen.ecovillage.org/ ) might be one such kind of sub culture , although too often I realize they tend to reject information technologies and try to move to some more collectivist structures , going back to the past , trying to escape complexity and live a simple life ,

although there are also some examples of emerging networks , such as

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/globalvillages/

http://www.worknets.org/wiki.cgi?GlobalVillages

and also emerging , existing , communities such as one I know about ( but did not visit up to now ) in the netherlands ,

http://www.eva-lanxmeer.nl/

http://www.changelabproject.org/searchkb1.asp?id=114&action=view&tier=1

http://www.google.fi/search?q=EVA-Lanxmeer&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:unofficial&client=firefox-a

they also organize a festival ( in dutch - Michel might understand : http://www.c4real.nl/ )

and where an acquaintance of mine met at a ecotopia camp http://eyfa.org/projects/ecotopia ,
“alicia falvey” , has been ( and still is ? ) very involved in - I also remember she mentionned some other projects in Ireland ? -

I also paste below for Michel an extract in dutch extracted from
http://www.eva-lanxmeer.nl/ :

De wijk EVA-Lanxmeer

De Culemborgse wijk EVA-Lanxmeer is een stadswijk, die is gebouwd op basis van gedachtengoed over integrale sociaal-ecologische stedenbouw en permacultuur. In dit gedachtengoed staat de kwaliteit van de leefomgeving centraal, waarvoor de bewoners en bedrijven die er wonen en werken zelf medeverantwoordelijkheid dragen. De inrichting van leefomgeving wordt gekenmerkt door ecologisch bouwen, organische vormgeving en architectuur, afvalwaterzuivering in de wijk, centrale parkeerplaatsen, landschapsarchitectuur, samenhang tussen privé tuin, gezamenlijke tuin en openbaar groen, behoud van cultuurhistorische elementen, ontwikkeling van natuur, biodiversiteit en biologische landbouw.

text : beyond self actualization ? now!

Saturday, August 11th, 2007

a text of mine : beyond self actualization ? Now !

http://dante.ecobytes.net/beyond-self-actualization-now/

Permanent Collective Spaces for Project Development

Thursday, September 21st, 2006

my post can also be found on

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hc_ecology/message/268

I am eager to get to know about anyone that has ideas regarding spaces where we could live or hold events in a self organized way.

1) CouchSurfing and Travelling School of Life - Common Interests ? + Gathering Contacts for Collective Spaces
2) Legal Platforms for Collectively Purchasing Land ???
3) Decision Making Practices and Tools


1 ) CouchSurfing and Travelling School of Life - Common Interests ? + Gathering Contacts for Collective Spaces

Maybe an example of where Travelling School of Life objectives ( http://www.tsolife.org )
and CouchSurfing Objectives ( http://www.couchsurfing.org )
could potentially meet - such as in having our own Spaces :

http://wiki.couchsurfing.com/wiki/index.php/Permanent_CSC

( also see pasted below - on http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hc_ecology/message/268 )

and also other tools planned for development in CS :

http://wiki.couchsurfing.com/wiki/index.php/Future_Features_%26_Functions

one extract : ” From the CouchSurfing University, we thought it would be good to be able to search people by interests. Like I want to learn the guitar, who can actually host me out there and provide some lessons.. ”

http://wiki.couchsurfing.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page

all pages: http://wiki.couchsurfing.com/wiki/index.php/Special:Allpages

2) List of Spaces + Legal Platforms for Collectively Purchasing Land ???
Talking about Nomadic Social Centers in Urban and Rural areas during my travels these last months,
made me realise that there is alot of enthousiasm on this topic , and alot of people thinking and working on such topics.

I also met farm owners in different european countries that would be happy to host and let nomads self organize on their land.

and I remember talking about this topic with Tsolife friends - a list of spaces was started and it will soon be on the www.tsolife.org wiki

Which kind of Legal Platforms for (Purchasing?/Borrowing?) Land?

Borrowing : I remember Casey mentionned an idea that would offer interested owners of land to borrowing us their land / living spaces , under the agreement that their “property” would be returned in an equal or improved state

Purchasing : It might eventually also be interesting to understand how to develop legal platforms to reclaim land by opening up a subscription and collectively buy land - , that could be used for all kinds of projects , and would be self-organized / and where objectives would not be focused on maximisation of profit , but on maximising opportunities and empowering individuals and communities - such a platform would ask for donations to buy land , and although I imagine cooperatives could develop on such land , the land in itself could not be sold or speculated on , and would not be dominated by any individual or selected group of individuals - it would become land managed by the collective of individuals living on the land - through decision making processes with wich we could experiment - … hmm … such as Concensus ( ? )

3) Decision Making Practices and Tools

… I propose to gather Decision Making Practices and Tools links and knowledge - my current list of links on this topic:

http://del.icio.us/deliciousdante/decision

feel free to contact me on any of these issues - would also be nice to have some discussions on these topics on the lists and eventually complement existing articles on our wikis such as

http://dominik.valledismeraldo.com/new/index.php/Tsolife/Openorg

http://wiki.couchsurfing.com/wiki/index.php/Organizational_Structure ( ? )

“People are collectively participating in a system that is enslaving them.”

Wednesday, September 20th, 2006

<< Money has no intrinsic value, bankers create money out of thin air yet charge mathematically unsustainable compound interest to people, governments and businessess. People are collectively participating in a system that is enslaving them. >>
http://www.seek2know.net/money.html

( I found this last link through http://www.droppingknowledge.org/ questions list - more exactly: http://www.droppingknowledge.org/bin/posts/focus/10261.page - Is pusuit of profit/money or Life the goal here - by Atma )

also see

http://www.altruists.org/ideas/economics/

http://www.equilibrismus.de/

and other links ( including about alternatives ) I add to

http://del.icio.us/deliciousdante/Economy?setcount=100

http://del.icio.us/deliciousdante/AlternativeEconomics

Connecting Nomads + Nomads Platform and Address Book

Tuesday, June 13th, 2006

From: Dante-Gabryell Monson Date: May 18, 2006 12:33 PM
Subject: Re: [hc_ecology] NOMADS ADRESS BOOK AND COMMUNITY ONLINE - couchsurfing cooperation and nomadic tribe + Nomadic University Re: Nomads database
To: hc_ecology@yahoogroups.com, globalvillages@yahoogroups.com, sustainable_solidarity@yahoogroups.com

Yes, we are on the same wavelenght. 

also, for more openness and avoiding any one to have a specific control on such a database, I imagine that as you say there could be a lightweight program and website that would make it possible to access this specific nomadic database through specific and customizable communities through the Hospitalityclub.org portal and the Couchsurfing.com portal.

So the information and messages could be sent both trough HC and CS , while the data base would not be on any of these two servers, but would be spread between us - several servers and mirrors ( so that no one of us actually owns and controls the whole data base - p2p style )

And , in relation to accessing our communities ( nomads, greens , hospitality sites , openleader, etc ) etc - I imagine we could also have a small tool-gadget that would allow us to access it directly through our google desktop / personalized home - see:

http://www.google.com/apis/homepage/

http://www.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=30959&topic=1592

http://www.google.com/ig/directory

http://searchenginewatch.com/searchday/article.php/3506541

http://www.google.com/ig

http://www.google.com/support/bin/topic.py?topic=1592&hl=en


Dante 

On 5/17/06, Roberto Barbagallo  wrote:
I totally agree! 

I think one of the first concept would be the fast conncetion between nomads. Then a adress book totally in text, without imagines, really light to access in! CS it’s really heavy to download when you are travelling and you need to save time and money in any Internet Cafee or wifi-ing around. I’ve just bought a pda + wifi conncetion + solar pannel :D I’d call it EcoPalm :)  now I need all those services online really light to access in :)
The wiki would be great with an attach Excell file or Txt  with inside any informations about nomads , such as mobile, email, skype and any onther way to keep in touch.
And this file could be also part of the Tsol wiki. About this…it’s often off line.

Psy

On 5/17/06, Dante-Gabryell Monson  wrote:


Dear Synnove ( cc: nomadic - eco - thinker - activist - alernative lifestyle friends ) 

IN RELATION TO THE NOMADS ADRESS BOOK

I imagine that , in addition to gathering and building together our own nomadic adress book of friends ( that eventually we could gather on a wiki? )

WE COULD ALSO WORK WITH SITES SUCH AS couchsurfing - note: I remembered they developped a special temporary http://care.couchsurfing.com/ ( currently leading to main site ) wich was aimed at building a community volunteering to support disaster victims at the time of the Cyclone’s a few months ago , and when googling , found this:

see http://www.couchsurfing.com/group.html?gid=2483  Community versions
Let’s start by figuring out the major communities to implement and get ambassadors to take ownership. For example, I think Mattthew of SF is interested in spearheading burners.couchsurfing.com for the Burning man community. These ambassadors will assess the needs of the specific version and work on the infrastructure, and on promoting it to that community. Care.CouchSurfing.com fits within this.

 Community versions Let’s start by figuring out the major communities to implement and get ambassadors to take ownership. For example, I think Mattthew of SF is interested in spearheading for the Burning man community. These ambassadors will assess the needs of the specific version and work on the infrastructure, and on promoting it to that community. fits within this.CouchSurfing University
We need an ambassador to lead a team to explore this concept and get the idea of the ground. We are in the zygote stage here. The idea is, people learn while they are traveling and perhaps we can create a more formalized, systematic way for people to get the most education in their travels. Members can register as teachers and students and find each other. We do not need to launch this by the end of the summer, but we have a goal of having a solid proposal then. I think Dani has expressed interest in this.

Partnerships
We need a leader to propose organizations and businesses with who CouchSurfing should considering approaching for formal affiliation. Once the potential partners are approved, begin building relationships.

On 5/15/06, Synnöve Mathč  wrote:
 

Hi Dante,
I was thinking about your project to create a database for nomadas.

 

I want to mean I have to do a new notebook, and after I have to ask to the people if they want to appear in our database (be sure in Spain some people don’t want to appear by net)
I’m talking with nomads around the planet :o) and some told me to do a database with advises and info for nomads since people who travel by hicht hike, and others who travel by caravans, bus etc…
What do you think? How many people are working in your project? Please tell me something because in a few days (after the zapatista meeting) I going to lose in Eire so my new notebbok and more ideas starts there.